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Error code · Rational · Combi ovens

Rational Combi Oven Error Code 38: Flame After Bottom Valve Closes

Ignition controller error 38 on a floor-standing gas SelfCookingCenter or iCombi oven means a flame current was measured ten seconds after the gas valve closed on the bottom hot air burner. Close the gas valve, and call the gas utility from outside if you smell gas. Phone us with the number shown and keep the covers fastened.

Medium · inspection needed

High: a critical gas error that may involve a valve that stays open and can lock cooking.

Code
Ignition controller error 38
Maker
Rational
Equipment
Combi ovens
Applies to
Automatic ignition controller (SCC / iCombi gas units)

What does Rational Ignition controller error 38 mean?

This is the bottom burner version of error 18. On a floor-standing gas Rational oven, the automatic ignition controller expects the bottom burner flame current to drop to nothing after the gas valve closes. Error 38 means it was still measured ten seconds later. Each occurrence adds one critical gas error toward Service 140, and repeated errors end in a cooking lockout. The reading could mean a flame really remained, or that the signal stayed false. The manual-based list covers a flame sensor and wiring on the bottom burner that keep a false signal, a bottom burner gas valve that closes slowly or sticks open, an ignition controller that reports flame after shutoff, and gas pressure or connections feeding the bottom burner unevenly. A floor-standing oven should not run on one burner while it reports critical errors, because the top burner would then carry a load it was not designed to carry alone and the bottom problem would stay hidden. Testing the bottom valve and signal is the way to separate a real flame from a false one.

Affected models and control systems

This applies to floor-standing gas Rational SelfCookingCenter and iCombi ovens with the automatic ignition controller, per Technical Information TI_2220. Other generations of ovens may number their messages differently.

Code numbers and their meaning can change between control generations. We match the full model and control before acting on a code.

What you may notice

  • Ignition controller error 38 on the display
  • Bottom burner locked out after a cycle
  • A Service 140 message after repeated errors
  • Reduced heat from the lower part of the oven

Possible causes

Listed in Rational's documentation

  • Flame sensor and wiring on the bottom burner keeping a false signal
  • Bottom burner gas valve that closes slowly or sticks open
  • Bottom burner ignition controller that reports flame after shutoff
  • Gas pressure or connections feeding the bottom burner unevenly

Other likely causes — what usually sits behind Ignition controller error 38 on this control. A technician confirms which one it is before any part is replaced.

  • Debris near the bottom burner that holds a glow after shutoff
  • Valve diaphragm stiffened so it closes late
  • Gas pressure swings when nearby kitchen equipment turns off

Safe checks before calling for service

✓ What an operator can do
  1. Close the gas valve to the oven.
  2. If you smell gas, leave the building and call the gas utility from outside.
  3. Do not run the oven on one burner while it reports critical errors.
  4. Phone us with the number shown, and keep the covers fastened.

How a technician diagnoses Ignition controller error 38

  1. Read the error log and the Service 140 count.
  2. Check supply pressure and connections.
  3. Inspect the bottom burner electrode, sensing wire and chamber.
  4. Test valve closing time and sealing.
  5. Measure the flame signal after shutoff.
  6. Replace the failed part, then run a cycle with a leak check.
! Leave this to a technician
  • A bottom valve that sticks open leaves gas reaching the chamber, which is a hazard that needs test equipment.
  • The ignition circuit and burner chamber contain high voltage and hot surfaces.
  • Clearing a lockout without finding the cause leaves a gas safety problem in place.

How Ignition controller error 38 differs from similar codes

Error 38 is the bottom burner version of error 18 and applies to floor-standing models.

Technical reference

Document
Technical Information TI_2220 New gas service messages 140
Edition
TI_2220_en-GB V02.1, 05/2023 (sheet dated 21/09/2022, series 2022/20)
Models / control
Automatic ignition controller (SCC / iCombi gas units)
Section
Trigger criteria and warning levels, printed pp. 1-2 of 4 (Service 140.4 / 140.8); ignition controller error list 17, 18, 22, 37, 38, 42 on p. 3-4 near the end of the sheet
Checked
October 2026

We use the maker's document to read the code and do not reproduce it. Always confirm the complete model and control before applying these steps.

Ignition controller error 38Questions about Rational Ignition controller error 38
How is error 38 different from error 37?

Error 37 is flame before the valve opens, and 38 is flame ten seconds after it closes.

Is this a leak?

It might be, if the valve sticks open, or it might be a false signal. Shut the gas and have it tested.

Can I keep cooking on the top burner?

We advise not to while the oven reports critical errors.

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